Topic Title: Lead Characters...
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I was just thinking about some of my favorite main characters from RPG's a little while ago, and I realized... I have none. To be quite honest, I find I have never been able to connect with the main characters of any RPG (except FFVI, but that doesn't count... I still don't know who the main character in that game was...). I can connect fine with any of the secondary characters, but I really couldn't care a less what happens to the main characters... unless it involves the secondary characters in some way as well, like
*FF7 Spoiler... do I really still need to mark this?*
when Aeris died.
*End Spoiler*
Does anyone else share my utter indifference towards main characters in RPG's? Can anyone think of a reason why I feel this way (because, to be honest, I can't... I like main characters in other things, T.V. shows, books, movies, etc...)?
-Surtur knows why he hates the main character in Lunar... just because you want to be a hero, doesn't mean you can... stupid brat... er, but Surtur still likes the Lunar games nonetheless...
"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"But sooner or later it happens to even the best children doesn't it blasphemer? Sooner or later every son lets his mother down."
"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)
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| | "Re(1):Lead Characters..." , Tue 14 Aug 12:39 PM | Message #2684
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Personally, I don't see how anyone could relate to the recent hero models of RPGs. Such as Cloud, Squall and Zidane. They're all so bland. Squall had two demensions, the attitude he put fourth to protect himself and then his true self that wanted to break that shell. Cloud didn't need a demension because his was so scrambled througout the game. And I won't even mention Zidane.I don't blame your Surtur, for not being able to connect. With most RPGs, the heros are the exact opposite of what they're supposed to be, which is intresting. There are only a few RPGs that can provide a great main character, such as Xenogears .. and if you have played that and weren't able to connect with Fei, then maybe it's you and not the characters.
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| | | "Re(2):Lead Characters..." , Tue 14 Aug 13:45 PM : | Message #2685
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Actually, I don't think I could connect with Fei. It's not that I disliked him though.... I found most of the actions he took to be entirely understandable, after all. I guess you could say I empathize with him, but I don't think I connected, really.
I did sort of connect with Krelian (more the Krelian of the past, though, during the Nisan War, than the present-day Krelian) however. I was kinda hoping that he was going to wind up with Sophia instead of Lacan (though it was obvious he wasn't).
Oh, and I think I know what the problem is. I can't connect to the main characters, because I tend to like the enemies more. I usually want the bad guys to win... but alas, they never do...
-Surtur connected with Chu-Chu most of all in Xenogears...
"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"But sooner or later it happens to even the best children doesn't it blasphemer? Sooner or later every son lets his mother down."
"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)
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| | | "Re(3):Lead Characters..." , Tue 14 Aug 02:26 PM | Message #2686
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That's understandable, I'm sure alot of poeple think the same way. I connect with a few badguys. I also connect with Krelian, like yourself. And, again, on the Krelian during the Nisan war. I'm surpised there hasn't been an RPG, to my knowledge, where you play the role of the antagonist. But I'm sure if there was, then he or she would gradually become a "good guy". Any other badguys you think you've connect with, Surtur?
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| | | "Re(4):Lead Characters..." , Tue 14 Aug 02:41 PM | Message #2687
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All of them, really. Ghaleon, Sephiroth, Guildenstern (although I can't tell if I connect to him, or just think he's cool...), Kefka, Magus, etc.
Generally, I can understand why they would want to destroy or take over the world, more than I can understand why the good guys would want to save it...
-Surtur wouldn't save the world...
"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"But sooner or later it happens to even the best children doesn't it blasphemer? Sooner or later every son lets his mother down."
"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)
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| | | "Re(5):Lead Characters..." , Tue 14 Aug 03:03 PM | Message #2688
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Good point, 'nuff said.
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| "Re(1):Lead Characters..." , Thu 9 Aug 12:39 PM | Message #2645
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I can connect with Crono from CT :) He's my kinda guy :)
I think I can empathize more than I ever connect with characters. After some careful study, I realize that the primary difference between main RPG characters and me is that, well, I'm never entrusted to save the world from some horrible evil. As such, it's rather difficult for me to know what that feels like.
I suppose if they were to make an RPG where the main character runs a messageboard and collects anime and RPGs, I would identify with that.
Anyway, in the real world, you can't go hunting and have whatever you kill drop money. If that weren't true in RPGs, the main characters would be perenially broke.
I love fantasy/fiction for the very reason that it in no way resembles my actual life in the doldrums. Unfortunately, it means that connecting to characters in games, etc. isn't always the easiest thing in the world.
My vote still goes with Crono. I would have done what he did in just about every situation. :)
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| "Re(1):Lead Characters..." , Tue 7 Aug 08:06 PM | Message #2623
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Well, to identify with someone you have to be able to see some of yourself in them. Perhaps you have yet to encounter a main character in a video game who is enough like you. Certainly this semblance(sp?) need not be great, but I think it must exist.
I didn't identify with Cloud, but I felt for him. I cried for him. I identified more with Tifa actually, which is strange, but oh well. I identified with Squall as much as I hate to admit it, and I identified with Terra and Celes, who I think are the main characters. I identified with Cecil BIG TIME; I think that is why I still love FF4 so much. I didn't identify with Zidane either, but I also didn't like him. I identified with Elly, Ashley Riot, Crono, and Serge. Even Ramza.
Anyway, maybe you just haven't found the right character, yet. That is entirely possible and not unusual.
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| | "Re(1):Lead Characters..." , Tue 7 Aug 05:09 PM | Message #2621
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Hmmmm...
I do not hate most main characters.
In fact, I have only hated two. They are: Meis, from Thousand Arms, and Zidane, from FFIX
Meis, let's face it, is a sicko. He has nothing in his void mind apart from women, and screws the girls mind too. He was too much of an idiot, and not a likeable one IMO. Hell, the game sucked as well, so I guess that helped a lot in my despising of him. I wish he had died at the end...
Zidane is also a womenizer, and also an idiot. He is a clone of the aforementioned, in fact. He was also a monkey. So yeah... I cared for Steiner more in this game. All the others were cliche (except Vivi).
But I like most other main characters. Cloud, the protagonists of both Suikodens; heh, I even liked that punk Gustave from Saga Frontier 2 :). Claude/Crawd (cuervo?  ), Maxim, Jeros, Dart, Lenneth Valkirye, Fei... all of them and more  .
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| | | "Re(2):Lead Characters..." , Tue 7 Aug 09:46 PM | Message #2625
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Char that I can identify with are (not in the whole but some point): Id, Krelian, Grahf, Cloud, Kain (from LoK:BO and LoK:SR)and shadow. These are for me the most obvious, but I could certainly find other char.
Anyway it was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time since I didn't post (freakin' jobs)
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| | | "Re(4):Lead Characters..." , Wed 8 Aug 11:49 AM | Message #2627
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Arrgh... I didn't like Squall, 'cause he didn't make any sense... if the GF's made him forget everything from his past, why was he so damn distraught all the time? He really shouldn't have had anything to be upset about, considering the GF's made him forget practically everything he should've been upset about...
-Surtur doesn't see what some people had against Zidane, though... Surtur thought Zidane was just... funny...
"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)
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| | | "Re(5):Lead Characters..." , Wed 8 Aug 05:44 PM | Message #2635
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hey, good point.
I thought the characters in FF8 were pretty good... everyone, that is, except Squall. I couldn't stand the way he was a jerk on the first disc (too much like Cloud to begin with) Then all of a sudden the 2nd disc rolls around and he's whining like a baby over Rinoa (who was pretty annoying too, I might add).
Come to think of it, I haven't liked any of the main characters since the FF series moved to the PSX...
Fei is cool, though.
Chrono was likable, because although he didn't talk, you could believe that you were actually role-playing him a bit more than you could Serge.
Zidane... well, he seemed a little bit too ridiculous to be likable.
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| | | "Re(2):Lead Characters..." , Tue 7 Aug 06:54 PM | Message #2622
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It's not that I hate the main characters... I do often find them interesting, and enjoy watching them develop... it's just, I never feel any connection to them. If the main character were to die in most RPG's, it might be a cool method of developing the plot, but I doubt I would feel sad about it.
-Surtur couldn't stand Thousand Arms... he played it for 2 hours and returned it to Blockbuster...
"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)
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As far as favorite RPG characters its either Fei Fong Wong of XENOGEARS, or Squall's alter ego (whatever that guys name was)of FINAL FANTASY VIII. Both were made up of others in more than one way Squall controlled a geek and Fei had the memories of all of his family lineage all the way back to when Deus crashed.
But, most RPG main characters are not that easy to like unless you really at least partly believe in some of the things that are being mentioned in the game or you can mentally bend around what is going on.
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| | | "Re(4):Lead Characters..." , Fri 10 Aug 01:10 PM | Message #2655
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Actually i've taken a liking to characters to whom you do not control such as :-
Id (Idont need to tell you where from) - He ALMOST a carbon copy of me except I have Black hair And not as evil.
Zack (FF7) - He cool - In my oppinion anyway
Big Joe - enough said
and last but not least
Wiseman!
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| | | "Re(6):Lead Characters..." , Sat 11 Aug 09:25 AM | Message #2661
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wow!
I think ID is cooler than Fei
dope....hehehe
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p's Me? Dope? NEVER? NEVER!
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