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"How FF8 could have been saved." , Sun 2 Sep 09:19 PM



Considering how most of us feel that at the very least FF8 could have been a better game; I thought I'd open a thread where we could discuss how the game could have been saved. Sure I complain a lot about the game but instead of criticising it I figured we could talk about how we would change it.

First of all I would get Mitsuda or Yoko Kanno to write the soundtrack. FF8 has got to be one of the low points of Nobuo's career. I would retain a few tracks however like the song in the opening cutscene (forgot the name) and I would make Laguna's battle theme the main battle theme.

I would change the battle system to something closer to the ones in FF6 or FF9. Each character would be unique in their fighting style with specialised attacks.

The graphics are fine I wouldnt change those in the slightest


*Minor FF8 spoilers*

The storyline is another story entirely. I would get rid of that whole orphanage disaster and the whole part about GF's erasing memories. I would also make Seifer a regular character throughout the game. This would surely liven up the game a bit. Each character would have a more interesting background and change more drastically throughout the game. Selphie for example would lose someone close to her after the Garden she came from was destroyed, this would result in her becoming more mature. The love story would be toned down with Squall rarely having to save Rinoa. Instead there would be more emphasis on Rinoa developing her powers as a sorceress.

I'm sure I'll think of more to add later but that should get you all started.

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"Re(1):How FF8 could have been saved." , Mon 3 Sep 08:41 PM

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I think they should have published my RPG Maker 2000 game and called that FF8. They didn't ask me for my preferences before making the game. The bastards. How dare them. I am so insulted that the main character didn't have the same name as me. Obviously, only characters that share my name are good characters. Squall was a crappy character because my name isn't Squall. I don't like the number 8, so that automatically made the game bad. They should've named it FF8.5. The story wasn't about me so it sucked. Everyone knows that I'm the center of the universe. The music should've been hardcore techno. I like hardcore techno. Liberi Fatali sucks because it isn't hardcore techno. They should've also gave the game to me for free because I rule so much. The bastards.

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"Re(1):How FF8 could have been saved." , Sun 2 Sep 10:21 PM

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Hmm...

1) Change the main villain. In fact, Kostjan's idea is pretty cool, now that I think about it, because all the scenes from Laguna's past give you a sense of empathy (if not sympathy) for the character. Having him suddenly turn out to be a bad guy (as long as there was good reason for it), would thus, be really cool... but I would probably just make Edea the main villain. She seemed like a good enemy, up until the end of Disk Two, at which point she stopped being the enemy, and the game got all fucked up.

2) No Esthar. I disliked Esthar. It looked cool, but once you get to Esthar, the game suddenly became very uninteresting to me (while before, I thought there might still be some promise to it...).

3) The orphanege thing. That sucked. Take it out.

4) Have Selphie stop jumping around. That was annoying.

5) Get rid of Zell.

6) Explain why Irvine fell in love with Selphie. Much like the Squall/Rinoa situation, that didn't make a whole lot of sense. One second, all he can think about is getting her in bed, the next Selphie is suddenly deeply in love with him, and vice-versa. Meanwhile, I'm left thinking "what the hell?".

7) Make Squall less of an asshole. All the characters in the game had the EXACT SAME PAST, and none of them turned out to be as fucked up as Squall. It makes very little sense.

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"Re(1):How FF8 could have been saved." , Sun 2 Sep 09:45 PM

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Let's see...

* I'd make Rinoa/Squall love more romantic and epic, not the "fuck me squall - i dont care" thingie...

* I'd scrap the garden ideas (they blow), as well as same orphelinage crap (like DS pointed out)

* I'd make the villain someone else than the stupid almost unrelated sorceress... My vote would prolly go to... Laguna... what a plot twist it would of made at the end? "Luke, I'm your father!"

* GF must go... no summons at all... or with cancelable animations, a la BOF4...

* Fujin less retardedly speaking...

* Not only Seifer would call Zell "chicken wuss"

* A secret shower scene involving Rinoa and Squall... :p

* add chu-chu :p

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"Re(2):How FF8 could have been saved." , Wed 5 Sep 04:38 AM

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* add chu-chu :p ...
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The only things that I think must be changed in FF8 are the gameplay system and the love story, which probably means the whole game anyway... and I'm not that enthusiastic about the "Final Fantasy" brand name, so why don't they do a new game with a new name, like... Xenosaga? ;)

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"Re(2):How FF8 could have been saved." , Mon 3 Sep 05:11 PM

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1. I agree with everyone on the ditching of the orphanage thing.(The GF's making them forget their past included.)

2. I didn't mind the Garden ideas too much. It should be a more diciplined atmosphere. It seemed more like daycare and less like an organization training kids to be mercenaries.

3. Seifer should be a playable character, as DS said.

4. Get rid of Irvine, the cowboy thing was just lame.

5. Kill off the ridiculous drawing factor.

Gotta go finish Phantasy Star II now.

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"Re(3):How FF8 could have been saved." , Mon 3 Sep 09:25 PM

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I didn't mind the Garden ideas too much. It should be a more diciplined atmosphere. It seemed more like daycare and less like an organization training kids to be mercenaries.

That is so true its not funny.

They just lacked any credibility

I think the whole weapon/magic system needs to be redone and definately get rid of the draw system. I'd in fact make Rinoa and possibly Edea the only ones who have spells much like FF6 and FF9

How about killing Irvine instead of just getting rid of him. That sollution would work wonders.

I dont think they need to get rid of the GFs just their part in the storyline and add a cancel animation option like Kost suggested.

Selphie's dialogue should not consist of the words "wheeee I like trains"

Not sure about Laguna being the villain, if it was mishandled it would be a disaster. Oh yeah and get rid of that idea they had about getting the weapons by trading rare items and make the sub-quests more interesting.

Most important of all bring back the moogles


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