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"HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Thu 23 Aug 11:10 AM



ftp://ftp.zdnet.com/vgs/ps2/rpg/xenosaga/xenosaga_ps2-intro.mpg

It's 90mb, but it's well worth the download!

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"Re(1):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Thu 23 Aug 12:06 PM

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Erm... is it actually the introduction? If not, does it have spoilers? I don't want to watch it if either is true...

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"Re(2):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Thu 23 Aug 08:06 PM

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It's mostly various cut-scenes... TONS of voice acting...but I don't understand a word of Japanese, so I didn't mind... Heh.

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"Re(3):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Thu 23 Aug 09:17 PM

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Yeah, well, I just forced myself into watching it, anyway. Really nice. Luckily, I couldn't understand a word of it, so there really weren't any spoilers...

although
spoiler:

was that Citan I saw? If so, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense... otherwise, it's certainly a freaky coincidence... oh, well, don't answer that question, one way or the other... like I said, I like to surprised...



It looks pretty amazing, graphically (though the exteriors of the spaceships don't look that great, actually...). And that swordfight looked amazing...

-Surtur likes swordfights.


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"Re(4):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 08:56 AM

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If only our friends at Ziff Davis (sp?) had better connections.... Cause im getting it at a geniuine 4k a sec, and that is not good for my ego. :p

Also, im getting it only to see that mysterious "someone" that Surtur saw... Mind you, from what I saw of screenshots, Xenosaga looks as lame and crappy as it gets (at least they could make more serious-looking main characters???)...

:p

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"Re(5):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sun 2 Sep 07:11 PM

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(at least they could make more serious-looking main characters???) ...
That is exactly what I'm talking about. Ergh, I was psyched to hear that there was going to be a prequel back when some of the first news was revealed about it. But by the time the first few screens were released .. I lost all intrest. None of the characters were appealing to me at all. The few good designs they had for a few of the characters was ruined due to the fact that they looked no older than 10.

And what's with the game beginning with an opening scene set in Kenya on Earth in 2000 something? That really sucked the last of my intrest away.

Even after saying this, I know I'll still play the game. Err ..why even argue with myself then?

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"Re(5):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 09:41 AM

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Mind you, from what I saw of screenshots, Xenosaga looks as lame and crappy as it gets (at least they could make more serious-looking main characters???)...
And yet, you liked Xenogears? May I remind you, XG had some of the ugliest character sprites ever produced. And they were all very "cartoony", aswell...
Besides, the intent is to have XS look like an anime...

-Surtur looks like an anime character... his eyes are twice the size of his body...


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"Re(6):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 11:59 AM

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Xenogears, ugly sprites?? WTF???? Let me guess, you started playing your RPGs from FF8???? :p

Xenogears sprites and face portraits are godly... Period... Xenosaga facials look like some 8 year old kids playing a mascarade.

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"Re(7):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 12:03 PM

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I started playing RPG's with Chrono Trigger, actually. And I still think Xenogears' character sprites were ugly. The face portraits may have been well made, but the sprites still looked ugly to me.

Xenosaga's facials look to me like the average anime characters'. Which I like.

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"Re(8):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 01:10 PM

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Agreed. From far away, the sprites looked fine. But up close, they were pieces of crap, literally. But, the artwork in the game was godly, I loved every single portrait... cept' for Childo of course. Ewww...

And Xenosaga doesn't look that bad, although Shion could be just a LITTLE more serious looking. She has a strangely happy look on her face...

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"Re(9):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 17:04 PM :

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Surtur, this guy?? hmm... I doubt he is related to our old friend Citan, but hey, he does ressemble him.. somewhat? :(

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"Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME!" , Sat 25 Aug 06:25 PM

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If you listen closely, while he's fighting (I first heard about this on TheGIA...), you can hear the other guy shout out "Hyuga!"...

The plot thickens...

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"Re(2):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Tue 28 Aug 05:37 AM

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First, "Hyuga" could be just some generic battlecry. Secondly, I love Xenogears's 2D characters than Xenosaga's 3D models. The 2D characters in XG looks much more mature and stylistic than the 3D models in the XS trailer, which looks like some generic plastic dolls (okay I'm a huge fan of anime, so tha't may be partly the reason why I love XG and Lunar series). I'd bet the 3D engine Xenosaga based on is just a mediocre one. Anyway the graphics is nowhere close to impressing me. But the game looks kinda interesting, however I really doubt the reason for those fans who think the graphics in the trailer is fabulous... It's not that great even when compared to second generation PS2 games, or PC games two years ago. I personally will play XS for the story rather than the graphics for sure.

Oh, the animation are quite okay I guess, very fluid, so that's one good point :D

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"Re(3):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Tue 28 Aug 09:21 AM

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Well, I dunno. I like the game's graphics, so I suppose I'll just enjoy it that much more. But then again, I didn't like XG's sprites, and I still consider it the best game I've played. So in conclusion, I guess graphics don't actually matter at all to me...

"Hyuga", a battle cry? I slightly doubt that. I mean, you'd think the writers wouldn't take a scene with a character who looks remarkably like Citan, and use the word "Hyuga" in it, while not referring to him. Unless they're just trying to tease us...

which is pretty possible.

-Surtur's preparing for battle... HYUGA!!!


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"Re(4):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Wed 29 Aug 08:54 PM

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If you ask me he isn't yelling Hyuga at all. Unless the H in Hyuga is silent. I would say however that the figure in question does bear a striking resemblance to Citan especially considering the sword. Keeping in mind this is from the makers of Xenogears its probably a reference they through in for fun.

Another theory could be that in the revised Xenosaga universe the characters are reborn time and again on the planet much like Fei and Elly of course minus the contact and anti-type significance. Yeah its a longshot but you never know. Or they could rewrite him entirely so that he somehow survives all the way to episode 5 in stasis or something who knows we might as well wait for the game. We wont find out until then anyway


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"Re(5):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Wed 29 Aug 21:00 PM :

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The Colonel didn't yelled "Hyuga". As Olivier, a comrade of the EHQ's forum pointed out, he actually said "Iuwa!", meaning something in the lines of "Look who's talking!".

You can read the entire trailer script at the Monolithsoft homepage, in Japanese. And.. Olivier was right, "Iu wa" was mentioned, -NOT- "Hyuga". HOWEVER, the Colonel -DID- called the Citan-lookalike "Uzuki". You can hear it too if you listen to the sword fighting dialogue carefully. "Oo-zuki" (not "You-zuki".

「いうわ! 若造がっ!!」 "iuwa! wakasu ga!!"

The Japanese script

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"Re(6):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Thu 30 Aug 05:07 AM

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Yeah, but that could just mean the guy's related to Shion (Her last name is also Uzuki, isn't it?). Right now, I just think Monolith made the guy look like Citan for fun, but you never know..

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"Re(7):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Thu 30 Aug 03:24 PM

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Current speculation indicates that the Citan looking guy may be Shion's father :).

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"Re(8):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Fri 31 Aug 03:40 AM

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Well I'd say older brother is more likely than father. Keep in mind that Citan was only 29 years old. Being a father would mean that he'd have been banging away with someone since the age of 11, considering that Shion is supposed to be something like 20 years old. More likely this guy is a couple of years younger lets say 27.

So why does he look so much like Citan? I have three possible theories.

1. He is Citan

2. He's the original Citan, the one in the new EP:5 will be his clone

3. He's an ancestor who bears a striking resemblence to him.


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"Re(9):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Fri 31 Aug 11:45 AM

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Personally, I think he might be Citan, and that somehow he manages to survive up until Episode 5. Don't ask me how, it's probably not even true. See, I just think that in Ep. 5 "Hyuga" uses the name "Citan", because Citan was the name of someone (an old friend) he knew back in Ep. 1 (Perhaps Shion's father...).

But this is all just random speculation...

quote:
2. He's the original Citan, the one in the new EP:5 will be his clone

Heh. I can see it now... Xenosaga, Episode 5: Attack of the Clones.

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"Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOM" , Fri 31 Aug 10:55 PM

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Lets hope I'm wrong about the whole clone scenario and remember that one of the most popular Xenogears characters actually existed in two episodes "ep3 The Zeboim era" and "Ep 5 Xenogears the game" by remaining in stasis during the fall of Zeboim.

quote:
-Surtur is a clone of Hammer... check out his MAD SKILLZ!


Well he got the mad part right...but not in the good sense of the word.


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"Re(2):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sat 1 Sep 08:12 AM

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Since when emmy is a more popular character, bud? :)

Seriously though, I highly doubt it's our Citan we know and love... but hey.. You guys will tell me when you gonna play it (no, im not buying a ps2 just for this game)..

Moo...

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"Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sun 2 Sep 08:48 PM

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I was actually thinking of a non-playable character when I wrote that post and not Emerelda.


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"Re(4):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sun 2 Sep 08:52 PM

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Er... who? Miang?

-Surtur has no idea...


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"Re(5):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sun 2 Sep 08:59 PM

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*hint* If one believes himself to be Elvis after hitting his head then Elvis he is.

*Note* I do not believe myself to be Elvis

I bet Myaru knows who I'm rambling about.


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"Re(6):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sun 2 Sep 09:03 PM

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Ah! You're talking about Ramsus, right?

-Surtur's just kidding. He knows you're really talking about Dominia.


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"Re(7):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Sun 2 Sep 23:22 PM :

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Umm.. Ramsus was "born" (or gentically engeneered by Krel) the same time as fei.. hence he's about just as old (we learn about it when Krel talks to fei's mother in Ramsus flashback)

By Elvis, DS can make allusions to people's favorite Big Ugly Joe... :) "super nacho news anyone?"

Of course, Miang couldn't exist before the Eldrige's crash on earth, and she didn't quite "lived" her life, but possesed the bodies.. So she's out of question...

Krel, Zephira, and the elders are only 500 years old.. hence they are also out of question...

Conclusion: Big Joe it is... :)

[edit: speaking of "surtur's website" ( http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/surtur ), please DONT pretend that's a TAIL... :)

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"Re(8):Re(10):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer..." , Mon 3 Sep 02:34 PM

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You have a sick mind, kostjan.

Of course it's not a tail. It's a penis.

-Surtur is sickened by the very suggestion that it might be a tail.


"I can't believe it. I missed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." - Bullseye after killing Karen Page with a shot meant for Daredevil (Daredevil Vol. 2 Issue 5)
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"But sooner or later it happens to even the best children doesn't it blasphemer? Sooner or later every son lets his mother down."
"No... mom..." - Conversation between Mephisto and Daredevil (also Daredevil vol. 2 issue 5)

Surtur has a website now... sort of. Go see it!
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"Re(4):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Wed 29 Aug 10:02 AM

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You know, though..

In regard to the swordfight scene, I wonder if the player actually controls that? I hope this doesn't turn into another Final Fantasy VIII where it's more of a movie than a game. :/

Nebelung Nevasti!


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"Re(5):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Sun 2 Sep 07:00 PM

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quote:
In regard to the swordfight scene, I wonder if the player actually controls that? ...
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.This machine is obselete.


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"Re(6):Re(10):HUGE XenoSaga trailer... AWESOME" , Wed 5 Sep 10:29 AM

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You find my statement confusing?

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