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"Character Identification Help" , Fri 9 Feb 09:55


Ok Grahf is both Wiseman and Khan am I not right?? Then Who was hes little Henchmen or Henchgirl? Was it Ming that was helping him out?? I dont remember it that well.

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"Re(1):Character Identification Help" , Fri 9 Feb 16:47


yes, technically Grahf, Wiseman and Khan are all the same person. You see, Grahf is like a parasite, he doesn't really have a body since Lacan is dead, so he has to resort to using other people's bodies as hosts. Khan is the body he currently is in. If you took off the mask, you'd see Khan's face underneath. However, Khan still had some sort of power in his body, so he occassionally retook his body and showed up as Wiseman.

As for Miang, I guess you could say she was friends with Grahf, after all she was the one who told him about Zohar in the first place.

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"Re(2):Character Identification Help" , Fri 9 Feb 22:28


Oh, that comment warms my heart. ^.^ Heh heh heh.... friends... *shakes head*

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"Re(1):Character Identification Help" , Fri 9 Feb 14:34


I think wiseman is just Graf when Karh gets a little more stregnth.


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"Re(1):Character Identification Help" , Fri 9 Feb 11:46


If you mean the Executioner (the woman in the robe and mask), then yes, it was Miang

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"Re(2):Character Identification Help" , Sat 10 Feb 04:35


I always thought that Miang took the form of the executioner to do dealing with ummm what was that nation's name. Man its been so long since I played. I'm in the mood to play again. But the beginning all the way to the castle town. Is very tedious. And not to mention that I'm still trying to beat FF9(so close I can taste Necron's blood), Grandia 2(ah kinda stuck near the beginning, really hard boss fights), and Skies OF Arcadia(Ramirez you will pay!). Ok Miang in executioner custom cause it gave her more power, but isnt she supper powerful normally. SO I think it just one of her many disguises to manipulate people. (Like being Ramses Bed-I mean battle aid... hehe.

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"Re(3):Character Identification Help" , Sat 10 Feb 05:25:


I think the suit amplified her existing ether powers but was also used to conceal her identity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again now pay attention. Grahf is essentially the ID factor from Lacan. When Lacan died Grahf or his ID factor if you like jumped from body to body, its presumed he did this using the urobolus ring in much the same way that Miang does it. In order to regain his body he had to wait until it was reborn. Once that happened he tried to retake it but his plan backfired when Fei released a huge ether attack. The attack killed Grahf's host body and he entered the body of Kahn who happened to be Fei's father. The ether attack then came back around on Fei but at the last moment Fei's mother (Karen) protected her child and took the blast. Kahn was a rather powerful person and managed to resist Grahf occassionally and during these periods he regained control of his body and assumed the identity of Wiseman. The rest of the time he went around under the identity of Grahf.

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"Re(4):Character Identification Help" , Sat 10 Feb 08:04


Grahf didn't take over Khan's body until 3 years before the game. They never say if Grahf died during that scene with Karen.
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"Re(5):Character Identification Help" , Sat 10 Feb 16:55


My mistake should have got my facts straight. Although that ether attack must have atleast injured Grahf enough for him to leave at the very least.

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