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, Mon 12 Mar 22:51
If Redrum wasn't responsable for the deaths in the sewer and Id/Fei was, what the heck did he do? And what was his deal with the bell? I know he was a father from the child's response in the orphanage, but what did that have to do with the story?
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| | "Re(1):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 16:35:
And I say Redrum is an evil child molester from hell, hunting out by nights for the blood of virgin... boys!
In consequence, he only deserved his sort of being sexually abused by Rico, while Fei and Doc were taping it on Citan's super duper camera equipment that Fei was sent for in the beginning of the game....
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| | "Re(1):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Tue 13 Mar 00:43:
He's one of Solaris' many human genetic experiments gone wrong, :) Not to mention, he's also a Wels that reeks of ugliness.
The bell serves as a mememto for Redrum's child. The whole scene at the Orphanage was to let the player know that Redrum was once human.
And when the player get to Krelian's Lab and see the encaged specimens awaiting to be 'fixed', their reaction is usually.. "Hey.. Genetic engineering, human experiments.. Redrum? HOLY.. it's all coming together" ;)
Side note: GAWD, Solaris and their 'pure-bred' Gazel citizens resembles NAZI Germany in its entirety (pale skin, blue eyes, crime against humanity..etc).
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| | | "Re(2):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Tue 13 Mar 07:15
Well, the party already knew that Redrum was human. If you remember, after they killed him, Citan said something about Redrums human qualties or something. At that moment they knew he was human. The orphanage scene was to create sympathy for that fact that redrum also fathered a child who has been waiting every day to see him once again.
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| | |  "Re(3):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh"
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My theory is that he simply scavenged from the bodies that Id killed. Considering that Redrum was trying to hang onto human qualities, he probably didn't want to actually slaughter humans, although he had no problem with feasting from the dead.
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| | | "Re(4):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 09:33
How would that explain the mysterious sewer deaths before Fei was brought into Kislev?
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| | | "Re(5):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 15:07
Perhaps Redrum didn't want to kill, but was overwhelmed by his unnatural tendencies every now and then. It would seem to make sense, and it would be tragic that way.
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| | | "Re(6):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 22:36
Ahh, that is a good theory, but Redrum *is* a Wels. According to Fei in the story-telling section of disc 2 (Soylent Systems in particular), Wels are short-lived mutated humans, and 'artificially' mutating a normal human into a Wels is an 'extruciatingly painful process'. In addition, Wels also need fresh human blood to live.
Perhaps Redrum's unnatural tendencies was only his primal instinct to survive. As a Wels of course :)
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| | | "Re(7):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Fri 16 Mar 09:20
That's what I was saying. Now that he was artificially (or unnaturally) mutated into a Wels, Redrum had a craving for blood. His craving would still be his primal instincts, but becoming a Wel is not a "natural" state of humanity. I probably should have clarified better.
We still know that Redrum did hang on to some human qualities, such as his fondness from the bell. Besides, having a total beast run around and kill people/scavenge from people is less dramatic than having a twisted, self-tortured ex-human thing running around killing/scavenging from corpses and wallowing in self-hatred.
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| | | "Re(6):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 15:41
I think it was ID becasue Citan told cain shortly after kislev that he had awakened 3 times.
Once in lahan then fighting Ramus in the desert and finally in the sewers.
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| | | "Re(7):No, this isn't a question about 'The Sh" , Wed 14 Mar 22:31
Yes, you can actually see Fei turned into Id. Well, his visions at least. At the very first sewer encounter, the 'monster' was shown with a red vision. Later on, it was only green, as it lurks around the tunnels. Red meaning Id, Green meaning Redrum.
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