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| |  "Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking"
, Tue 20 Mar 12:01
Well,after reading some of the old topic (I'm managing to read them all (I've only read the Rpg forum completely)) something come to my mind about a theorie (I'm writing on what I've understood,so maybe you can find in notime the weak point of this one):
the elders was tring to imprison Fei and their party cause they were their "descendant";
the Elders were born 10000 years ago when Deus crashed on the planet;
at that time the only ancestor of Fei was Abel,that surely wasn't an Elder;
how is possible that Fei is a "descendant" of the Elders?
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| |  "Re(1):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking"
, Fri 23 Mar 14:52:
Miang Hawwa -only- gave birth to 15 people, and they were Cain and the 12 Gazels, and of course, to replicas of herself, which were Elly and Miang, before she returned to Kadomony.
Notice something strange around here? They are all MALES. THEY CAN'T LEAVE DESCENDENTS.
The first generation of humans were -manufactured- by Cain, generated by the Animus substance, using Kadomony. This was a given fact in the Science chapter of PW.
These artificially created humans were then forced to accept Cain as a deity; Abel rebelled and Elly sacrificed herself to save him. Anywho, these artificial homo sapiens begin to populate the world on an 'interval'.
It all returns to nothing. It all
comes tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling
down.
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| | | "Re(2):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Fri 23 Mar 16:52
How can Mother return to Kadamnony when she split into Elly and Miang.
Yes I know we see her insider Zohar, but it is said she spilt.
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| | | "Re(3):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Fri 23 Mar 23:28
I think you're taking it a bit too literally.
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| | | "Re(4):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Sat 24 Mar 10:35:
Well If you can, please indulge me. Would love to hear an explaination.
Also I wonder if you were to see Kadamony before Deus was awakened, would the girl inside of it be the original Elly because Deus would not have been in control. Coz the girl inside Kadamony doesnt look like Elly, so iam assuming it is Miang, as well Deus is already awakened at this moment in the game.
I rememeber Intangir translated a part in PW where it said that when Deus is in control Mother is Miang, and when WE is in control, Mother is Elly.
But, even before Deus is awakened, WE is trapped, and is not whole, so it wouldnt be in control either, so what form would the woman in Kadamony be?
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| | "Re(1):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 12:37
You misunderstood the conversation that took place between Fei and the Gazel.
Fei IS NOT a decendant of the Gazel, but all other people in the world are. Fei's party have the closet genetic match to the Gazel, thats why they wanted them and only them, they didnt want Fei.
The Elders had one intention for Fei, and that was to eliminate him. Citain was given orders to incapacitate Fei in that room in Solaris.
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| | | "Re(2):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Fri 23 Mar 08:48
Hmm... I would argue with you on that one. Remember, Cain killed both Abel and Elly, so the Gazel and Miang were the only ones left to procreate. So everyone, including Lacan and Kim came from them. Although one thing thats arguable is that since Fei's not an Animus, perhaps he was born through some other means. I got no clue. :{
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| | | "Re(3):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Fri 23 Mar 09:43
What would you argue about my point? I said the contacts are not decendants of the Gazel. And you said that maybe Kim and Lacan were born from some other means. Well thats exactly what I said in my post.
Yes they had to come from people who are decendants of the Gazel, but the contacts have no genetic connection to them, thus making them not decendants.
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| | | "Re(3):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Fri 23 Mar 09:42
What would you argue about my point? I said the contacts are not decendants of the Gazel. And you said that maybe Kim and Lacan were born from some other means. Well thats exactly what I said in my post.
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| | "Re(1):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 12:08
Either they were referring only to the people with Fei, or they meant his body. The Contact's spirit may not have been descended from the Gazel, but his current fleshly incarnation would be.
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| | | "Re(2):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 12:36
I'm not sure about that.. I think Fei was excluded, since he looks exactly the same as a child as Abel did. In fact, they use that fact in the beginning of the game to throw you off :)
If I were to take a guess, I'd say they were only referring to Fei's party, not Fei himself. Either that or their artists weren't being too accurate when drawing Fei in each of his reincarnations :)
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| | | "Re(3):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 13:26
I just meant that Fei did not 'spontaneously generate' during each incarnation The Gazel were the parents of the human race, so all humans are descended from them, including Karen and Kahn. And since Fei's current body came from them, that body is also descended from the Gazel. However, I don't believe that they intended to use him as a host of sorts, as they apparently planned for the others of the group.
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| | | "Re(4):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 20:45
I still would debate on that. I think the contact's body is not generated by normal conception, but rather through some strange phenomena.
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| | | "Re(5):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Tue 20 Mar 21:22
Well, I assumed it was direct interference by Har...
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| | | "Heh.." , Fri 30 Mar 12:23
I'd be more inclined to say that the reasons Abel's incarnations look like Abel is the fact that he *is* the Contact reflecting in his genetic expression.
Homo sapiens is actually not a very genetically diverse species, there is a great deal of physical diversity, but *not* a lot of genetic variety. Not unlike a wolf for instance..
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| | | "Re(6):Uhm..... maybe I'm mistaking" , Wed 21 Mar 08:11
I don't think Har had any thing to do with anything in the Xeno world because of it's encagement in Zohar. Har's essence only lies in Zohar so it has no power to even Know what is happening in the Xeno world. I do believe though, that the contact possess some kind of power that enables him to be generated by strange phenemena so that he doesn't become a decendant of the Gazel. I could be wrong, but this is just how I see it.
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