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, Sat 24 Mar 06:08:
Ok since Fei's party were all close gentic relations to the gazel becasue they had died.
Then if the Gazel hadnt of lost their bodies then does that mean that everyone on the planet would mutate and that there wouldnt be any spared. But then why werent Zephyr and the Shevat elders(i mean the 3 old dudes) mutated. Since they were alive before the Gazel died?
Also wa Fei need to complete Deus- wasnt Deus searching for him and took Graf/Kahn in his place at Zohar.
And if he did need Fei then why were the Gazel intending to kill him.
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| | "Re(1):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 16:46
Hmm... They really screwed up with the mutation thing @_@ Everyone except for basically those special people in your party are supposed to mutate, but they still have all those people at Shevat. :( Probably a designer's mistake.
No Deus, doesn't need Fei, remember the Contact was the only thing that wasn't part of Deus when it crashed. Deus was looking for Fei so he could kill him.
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| | "Re(1):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 13:09
will you goddamn people stop talking about the gazel! dude their a bunch of old guys trapped in computers! they need to wear hats!
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| | | "Re(2):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 19:04
"They need to wear hats". hehehe, I don't know why but I find myself cracking up at that statement!! 
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| | | "Re(2):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 14:41:
I maybe shouldn't be writing this, but is it just me, or our our friend here, integral of dx/(1-x^2)^(1/2), is talking at a more agressive tone on this board than politeness suggests? :)
- KJ, also known as e^x
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| | | "Maclaurin returns" , Sat 24 Mar 18:21:
ROFL
that's excellent.
Yes, our friend  isn't being very nice :)
[EDIT: Kostjan made me complete more of the damn series because he's a mathematical sadist. Thanks, Kost. Bastard.]
-TC
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"So I open my door to my enemies
And I ask could we wipe the slate clean?
But they tell me to please go fuck myself
You know you just can't win" - "Lost for Words" Pink Floyd
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| | | "Re(1):Maclaurin returns" , Sat 24 Mar 21:28
I almost see Arc Sin reply "Umm... Sorry to disapoint you guys, but I'm a function of y!" :)
That would made poor TC's manual labour (which includes calculation and hopeless swearing, as well as use of the evil MS Equation Editor) practically useless... :(
- KJ, suggests to derivate y=x^x by taking ln from both sides
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| | | "Re(2):Maclaurin returns" , Sun 25 Mar 18:25
ok well i'd say something about that kost, if i knew what u guys were talking about....... :)
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| | | "Re(3):Maclaurin returns" , Thu 29 Mar 17:00:
Oh... Well, being too geeks that we are, TC and I, we were cracking down math jokes about your name, "Arc Sin" seen as "arcsin" (arc sinus)...
To explain you an "arc sinus" in few words, take your rectangular triangle... Not, you know that SIN is oposite from the angle side divided divided by the hypothenus... Now, imagine you have that triangle inside a trigonometrical circle, touching that circle at the point of junction of hypothenus and the opposide side (point A).... Now, from that point down to Y=0 (on cartesien plan) via the border of the segment of trigonometric circle IS the arc sinus..
Y _ _ _
|```````` \ A
|```````/`|`\
|``````/``|``\
|`````/```|```|``<-- circle... segment from F(x) = A to Y = 0
|````/````|```| ``````````` is the arc sin
L____________________ X
If you take an integral of the arcsin(x), the primitive you'll obtain will be equal to dx * (1-x^2)^(-1/2) + C (where C is a constant).. That's what my first reference was to...
As we know, every function can be expressed in a series form (a series is a sum of elements that either convirge or diverge)... In fact, the Taylor (or McLaurean) serie that is associated to arcsin is, like TC kindly took the time to write it down, x + 1/2 (x^3) 3! + 3/8 (x^5)/5! + ....
In fact, that's the way calculators and most computers function to make complex calculation... they don't have a hardware ALU (arithmetic logic unit) circuitry capable of pocessing directly trigonometrical and logarithmic functions... All they can do, however, is add, substract, and usually multiply, and via a combination of those arithemtic operations, they build complex mclaurean series to simulate the functiuon of the "cos" "sin" "tan" "log" and even square root button you see on your calculator.......... Anyway...
The third joke (about you claming to be "function with y" is that for instance i integrate arcsiny on the x, the result would simply be the same as integrating a constant :(
The "y me" joke by TC is not related to maths in any way...
Anyway, hope that cleared out things for you, and that you'll find the maths passionate and cool :)
Best Regards
Kostjan
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| | | "Re(4):Maclaurin returns" , Fri 30 Mar 18:55
jesus you guys are smart, i did get alot of that thank you though (they don't cover any of that in geometry lol), my name is actaully from a story I'm writing for a Creative Writing class at the junior college (i'm still in high school, im trying to get an arts credit so i won't have to waste a year on an arts class...). Sin is the bad guy, ya know, the evil dude, and he takes the title of "Arc" (witch means god or angel in the story's world) when he takes the consciousness of an Arc sleeping deep within the planet, and integrates it into his own, making him a higher being. Ok, i know u guys dont care but i had fun writing it :)
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| | | "Re(5):Maclaurin returns" , Sun 1 Apr 08:55
Nah, sounds interesting :)
Good luck on writing your story... :)
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| | | "Re(2):Maclaurin returns" , Sat 24 Mar 21:33
No...
then I'd say "y me??" :)
-TC
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But they tell me to please go fuck myself
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| | | "Re(3):Maclaurin returns" , Sat 24 Mar 21:48
But what would you do if he would of claimed to be a function of theta?? Hehe... Like my last semester's math teacher used to say when someone asked him a question, "aha ahaha hahah ahahaa!!"
That would be that teacher.. His name is (The Great) Rahman Q.I., he has 3 Ph.D. degrees, and he claims to be able to solve any mathematical problem that we can bring forward to him... "But not now, later!"..
KJ, worshiper of the Great and Magnificent Rahman!
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| | | "Re(4):Maclaurin returns" , Sat 24 Mar 21:50
Oh, and we should change the thread's name from "Animus" to "Calculus" too.. :(
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| | | "Re(3):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 16:46
Who??
My name? Names are irrelevent. But if you insist call me ID.
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| | | "Re(4):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 21:40:
Hmm... I wanted sinciriously help you out Neo~ID...
Alas, when I went to amazon.com to find you a Calculus For Dummies book (you know, those yellow-covered one), it only resulted in Mozart For Mummies... When I "simplified" the search by replacing "Calculus" by "Maths", if returned Dogs For Dummies... I'm sorry Neo~ID bud, looks like your case is hopeless...
Seriously though, if you really want to "understand", I recommend you a marvelous book entitled Calculus (2 tomes) by Thomas Finney.. At 9th edition as of two years ago, this is basicly what most scientists refer to as the Bible of Mathematics... Very nicelly done work indeed, in beautiful color too!!!
- KJ, author of Cutting Nails For Dummies
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| | | "Re(5):More Animus fun." , Sat 24 Mar 21:43
Just avoid the Stewart book. That guy just sits in his castle (yes, he lives in a castle... :P) and makes things needlessly complicated.
-TC
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| | | "Re(6):More Animus fun." , Sun 25 Mar 00:00
*pitiful sob* Stewart's books are the ones my school uses. And our teacher was apparently custom made go along with them. 'Needlessly complicated' sums it up quite nicely. Plus, the class has absolutely no respect for the guy; he's been dubbed 'Nancy,' for his habit of standing in odd positions when writing on the board, as well as other odd actions. I don't think his name helped the case either.
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| | | "Re(7):More Animus fun." , Sun 25 Mar 03:15
I remember chapters 11-13 of that book being the purest extract of hell. It explains *nothing*... just a few equations but not how to use them or even what you're trying to find.
Piece of crap book, I tells ya. Apparently the assistants to Stewart (who make edits/revisions) are too chicken to talk to the guy himself to have large parts re-written.
Bah.
-TC
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| | | "Re(8):More Animus fun." , Sun 25 Mar 09:53
Another reason why to migrate to Thomas Finney... Besides, at University level no-one obligates you to study by the only book assigned....
The Harward Project series of Calculus books is not bad as well, but by far inferior to TF in quality and quantity....
Finally, one of the best books for "examples" is Lipschutz (though he wrote more Linear Algebra material than Calc).. That is, if you can "handle" frequent typos and all (his editing teams looks sucky).. What I love bout his books is that ALL exercises that are given have either a complete or partial solution... And nothing beats that to prepare thyself for an exam :)
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